What did Kati Morton get wrong about Antisocial Personality Disorder? (Shane Dawson Interview)

Welcome to my scientifically informed insider look at mental health topics. If you find this video to be interesting or helpful, please like it and subscribe to my channel. Hello, this is Dr. Grande. Today’s question is what did Kati Morton get wrong about sociopathy. So this video departs from my usual format a little bit but I had a lot of requests to answer this particular question, and this question is based on a recent video that was on a YouTube creators channel. His name was Shane Dawson, and it interviewed another YouTube content creator named Kati Morton. Now, Katie Morton is a licensed Marriage and Family Therapist and just to be clear from the outset, I don’t know either one of these content creators. So the description of sociopathy that was offered as part of this video, has offended a number of people and a number of other people who said it’s just so technically inaccurate that there needs to be some sort of adjustment, some sort of clarification offered as I mentioned, I received a number of requests to do this video and if you look at the impact of this particular video, it’s exceedingly popular. So I’m worried about how some of this misinformation is getting out there, and I think it makes some sense to offer clarification to allow people who are interested, to know the scientific facts behind sociopathy. For those of you who are new to my channel, my channel really is based on the science of mental health, so I’m not going to offer any commentary about anyone’s character, I don’t offer a judgement about people, this is really just a focus on the accuracy or inaccuracy of this particular description of sociopathy. So let me start by drawing a distinction between the type of videos that I do and the type of technical information that I give versus the information we see in that particular interview. And this part really isn’t a criticism at all, this is just pointing out that there are two different formats I’m what they call a “Scientist Practitioner”. I have a PhD in Counselor Education and Supervision, I’m a licensed professional counselor for mental health, a licensed chemical dependency professional, a certified advanced alcohol drug counselor and a national certified counselor. So, I am both a scientist and a clinical practitioner. So I conduct research, and I treat people who are trying to reduce mental health symptoms and meet other goals. As I understand it, as I mentioned, Kati Morton is a licensed Marriage and Family Therapist. So she’s a practitioner, so it makes sense that her description of sociopathy wouldn’t necessarily involve a lot of technical detail, so that’s something to keep in mind when reviewing my criticism of her description. Of course, I’m going to go into a lot of technical detail, because that’s what I do. That’s really the point of my channel. Her particular interview there with Shane Dawson, that wasn’t necessarily the goal. So, in all fairness, that’s important to keep in mind. So on my channel in prior videos, I’ve covered antisocial personality disorder, I’ve covered sociopathy and psychopathy many times and from many different perspectives, so I’m just gonna give a brief summary of those constructs here, and I’ll move directly to my concerns with this particular video I’m talking about. So, antisocial personality is a cluster B personality disorder in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual. This is the dramatic erratic and emotional cluster. The same cluster as narcissistic, borderline and histrionic personality disorders. We see certain symptom criteria with the antisocial personality disorder. A tendency to violate society’s norms, deceitfulness impulsivity, irritability or aggression, a disregard for safety, irresponsibility and lack of remorse. As you can see this description is largely behavioral. The definition, the official diagnosis in the DSM emphasizes behavior. Now moving on to the constructs of psychopathy and sociopathy. It’s first important to note here that sociopathy is not a term that we really use too much anymore, in research literature. And it’s very easy, and really understandable that psychopathy, sociopathy, and antisocial personality disorder are confused with one another The overarching construct of interests most of the time is actually psychopathy. Psychopathy has, depending on the research that you look at, two main factors. There’s an interpersonal, affective factor, and a social deviance factor Sociopathy is really just that second factor. Its factor 2 psychopathy. And sociopathy closely aligns with that definition of antisocial personality disorder we see in the DSM. So real quickly going over factor 1 and factor 2 psychopathy. With factor 1, we see superficial charm, grandiosity pathological lying, being manipulative, lack of remorse, shallow affect, being callous, having a lack of empathy, and a failure to accept responsibility. With factor 2, which I mentioned before, is really that sociopathy piece. We see a need for sensations, so sensation seeking, parasitic lifestyle, lack of realistic long-term goals, impulsivity but here it’s really more of a boredom driven impulsivity, irresponsibility, poor behavioral controls, early behavioral problems, juvenile delinquency revocation of conditional release, and criminal versatility. This is having the ability, and desire, to engage in a number of different criminal activities. So again, sociopathy lines up with antisocial personality disorder. Psychopathy, overall, is different than antisocial personality disorder, but factor 1 is particularly different. The way we could think about it would be, most everyone who has psychopathy, would probably qualify for a diagnosis of antisocial personality disorder, but only some individuals with antisocial personality disorder would qualify as having psychopathy. So now I’m gonna go through, item by item, and discuss the different statements made by Kati Morton in this interview, and talk about some of the technical inaccuracies. Some of these aren’t really a big deal, but when I looked at that interview, and then I got all the requests for this video I realized that might as well just cover every technical inaccuracy that really stood out to me, and not just pick and choose. So the first thing that she said that kind of worried me was this idea that, an individual with antisocial personality disorder has “no empathy” and “no feelings.” So first of all, you have to understand that there’s Cognitive Empathy, the ability to empathize with somebody else, based on thinking and Affective Empathy. That’s the part where somebody can use their ability to feel, to experience empathy. Cognitive Empathy is intact with psychopathy and this includes sociopathy. So with antisocial personality disorder, Cognitive Empathy is intact. The affective empathy piece is where we see a deficit with factor 1 psychopathy, and we see a disturbance with factor 2 psychopathy, or sociopathy. So the feeling, including empathy, is still there. It’s just more of an emotional disregulation, a disturbance, than it is a deficit with sociopathy. The next statement was regarding this ability to “feel” when somebody has antisocial personality disorder. Now, I get that we all react to observations and sometimes we detect the feeling, before, we think about it, but what worries me about this particular statement, this idea that clinicians or other people, could go around and “feel” sociopathy, is that it makes the appraisal look easy. It makes it look like scientists, and clinicians, just base diagnosis, diagnosis that people carry around, potentially for life, we base it on “feelings.” We actually base it on actual evidence, information that can be quantified and behavior that we can observed. So, there is a “feeling” part to being a clinician, but this isn’t it. Appraisal is based on actual evidence. The next point is this idea that, individuals with antisocial personality disorder need to “feel important to everybody”, they need to “feel better than other people.” This is really a confusion of sociopathy with narcissism. I understand this confusion though because the two constructs oftentimes can occur, so antisocial personality disorder oftentimes is comorbid with narcissistic personality disorder. The next point of clarification, is the statement about individuals with antisocial personality disorders, not caring about themselves, or other people. Now certainly this can be an associated characteristic of a disorder, but to understand this you really have to understand the difference between ego-syntonic and ego-dystonic antisocial personality disorder. With ego-syntonic, someone’s aware of their thoughts, feelings and behaviors, and they accept them. So in that case, they wouldn’t really care too much about what they’re doing. With ego-dystonic, somebody’s aware of their thoughts, feelings and behaviors, and they do care. So here, they would care quite a bit about how their behaviors affect themselves, and potentially how they affect other people. So this distinction between ego-syntonic and ego-dystonic is really crucial, around clarifying this statement of individuals with this disorder not caring. The next item I want address here is the statement that was made about individuals with sociopathy trying to “mimic” other peoples emotions, trying to fit in, and even learning from therapy, how to be more “effective” at “manipulating” other people. There is some evidence to support the “imitation” of other feelings and trying to fit in, a little bit, but for most people with this disorder, I would say that’s not true, and this idea of “learning” from therapy how to be “manipulative,” that might be true in a very small percentage, but that really is not a characteristic of psychopathy, or antisocial personality disorder. The next three points have to do with really a clarification between psychopathy, and sociopathy. So there’s a statement about individuals with sociopathy being “charismatic?” That’s really more psychopathy. There was another statement about them being “dramatic?” That is consistent with sociopathy, we hardly ever see that with psychopathy. And the prevalence was stated as 4%? It’s really about 2-3% for antisocial personality disorder, and about 1% for psychopathy. The last two points I think are a little more important. The second to last here is, this idea that individuals with antisocial personality disorder, are “super intelligent.” There is no evidence to support this. This is a common misconception, so I can understand why it was said, but it’s important to realize this just isn’t true. I have a video I did about this where I talk about this in depth, and the last statement, the one that really bothered me the most I think this is the one that had the most impact on people in terms of the negative impact, was the idea that individuals with this disorder are “gross” or “creepy”, and I know later this was clarified to indicate the symptoms were gross or creepy. As mental health clinicians, and a scientist, we have to be non-judgmental. It’s simply not our job to judge other people, and we certainly don’t want to perpetuate a stigma. I think these comments were really just…ill advised, and I can understand why people would be offended by this. I think this was just a mistake, I don’t have any evidence to suggest there’s anything more than that, but of all the mistakes I saw here, it really was the most serious mistake. The interview format overall really seemed… dramatic and sensational, like it was really trying to “sensationalize” the condition, the construct of sociopathy, and I think it did so, in part, at the expense of individuals who have these traits. That’s really not fair, and it’s really not reasonable, and it’s certainly not consistent with being a mental health clinician, or being a scientist. And again, I realize Kati Morton is not a scientist, but it’s important too that we specify, in interviews like this, what our qualifications are, and at what level we’re discussing the topic. I really don’t like this material being sensationalized at the expense of people who suffer tremendously, with personality disorders, including of course, antisocial personality disorder. So this is really just something I’m pointing out because it’s important. Again, this isn’t to make any judgment, or to hold anybody in a negative light. Just pointing out something I think that must be said, in terms of what we saw here with this interview There was a lot of information that Kati Morton provided which was correct. It was by the DSM, and I think this interview was really a tough format for technical depth, as I indicated before. So overall, I think that there were a lot of positives and we just have to look at these more as technical clarifications. I don’t really see any evidence that Katie Morton’s channel, for example, is negative, overall. It actually appears to be positive. I can’t really endorse it though because I haven’t watched every video, but of the videos I’ve seen, it tends to be positive. In terms of Shane Dawson’s Channel. I’ve only watched that one video. So I really can’t make any useful commentary there. I hope you found this description of sociopathy, and some of these technical corrections to be helpful. Thanks for watching.

100 thoughts on “What did Kati Morton get wrong about Antisocial Personality Disorder? (Shane Dawson Interview)

  1. I am tired of people saying they are depressed when they just had a low mood. It really does a disservice to people who genuinely are struggling with mental health.

    Why? Because they hear you say "Oh I'm depressed" and then they see you recover in a few days, even hours, and they take this experience and expect people with actual mental health issues to just "get over it" or they say "oh you're just feeling a bit sad"

  2. smFh next you'll be saying the same thing about a child molester or murderer. And yes I put those extreme types as examples for a reason.
    A child molester does not care how the child is affected by their sexual perversion.
    A murder does not care how their victim is affected.
    The similarly between all 3 is not giving a damn about any one else. That's the point.
    We all have a right to be informed of the dangers lurking within our world.
    If you take offense to that warning , your probably the person everyone is warning against.
    Even the young lady diagnosed with disorder actually warned others about possible danger. So the fact that she doesn't "feel" anything for others is a non factor bc she spoke the truth
    and told of others to Be Aware!!

  3. The click-bait title had me worried this would be a harsh or unfair criticism of Katis work but I was very pleasantly surprised with how respectful this was! Haven't watched any of your videos before but definitely will be now đź‘Ś

  4. She said in the series that she specializes in eating disorders and self injury which gave a bad taste in my mouth, I hate how this series gave so much stigma

  5. about being able to have empathy, i read that they can sympathize as in understand what makes the other person feel that way but cant find themselves feeling the same way as the other person, thats why theyre usually portrayed as not havin empathy? i dont know if thats what you were explaining but sounds similar, just want to make sure if its okay

  6. Imho, the more awareness being brought to the subject.. the better! (so thank you!) Imho, might just be able to help those being so negatively impacted by these types of toxic people… realize the signs & understand that the issue (as twisted to be) isn't them! (Any of the Cluster-B Personality Disorders) Those who are being emotionally & psychologically abused… manipulated, yet have no idea. Those stuck in the tangled web of their deceit, lies, twists & bs. =/

  7. THANK YOU. As a student studying forensic psychology i was cringing so hard. We don’t use sociopathy at all anymore. I work as an RA for some of the leaders in research on psychopathy and i was so frustrated with her commentary. We use the PCL-R (psychopathy checklist revised) to score primary and secondary psychopathy. Also, she said 1 in 25 people were “sociopaths” which is SO WRONG. It’s closer to 1%-7% of the general population.

  8. Is it possible for someone with DID to have a alter with ASPD? I heard that it is possible from different sources, is that true? What do you think?

  9. Thank you so much for this! It was needed. I tried to convey this message numerous times by commenting on each video but of course you did a far better job at articulating. Thanks again for starting to end the stigma.

  10. I think my sister is a sociopath. She admitted to me she doesn't feel sorry for other people, she has no empathy. Living with her was very difficult. But it's not like she isn't a human because of that. She still has feelings, she still gets upset, but like the doctor said, it's more cognitive than feeling based. Saying that sociopaths dont care if she offends them is BS. They still have feelings, but different to ours. And they should be treated as any other person

  11. I really wish Shane hadn't brought sociopathy into the videos at all. I would have been happier if he had just gone in and shown what Jake is really like off camera. I enjoyed those parts far more than the sensationalized parts of the series.

  12. To be fair she isn’t a licensed professional within the “ASPD” area. She said so herself.

  13. Thank you for the clarification. I felt very uncomfortable with the way that they were talking about mental health problems in that video.

  14. Great Video!! I'm not trained in psychology but i do research and read it rather a lot and also found issue in what she said. I understand why she did it. They were making a series that had to be entertaining so obviously you exaggerate parts that make it interesting and leave out other things that perhaps won't interest the viewer. On a scientific level though i did think it was unprofessional, especially since she added her own negative opinions of Sociopaths. She's allowed to have these opinions but if someone were to have seen her about this issue and then watched the videos it's kinda like "oh, so this is what the person i'm paying to help me really thinks of me".

  15. I advise people to subscribe to you & not to that pretentious woman! once someone's unprofessional they lose their credibility & I have no clue how people like her got their license in the first place.

  16. As someone who suffered at the hands of an aspd parent, I find it disgusting that so many people are defending this disorder or saying because it's a mental illness that it isnt their fault or their actions aren't really bad.

  17. 1st sociopathy does not exist in psychology
    2nd psychopathy is definded in the PCL-R
    sociopathy was 1st used to make a clear distinction betwean psychosis and psychopoathy later it got used in popculture as far as i know there's not really a clear definition in cryminology or psychology
    am i right about this?

  18. By intelligence I don’t think it’s referring to the basic definition of it. But the ability to process and move outcomes based on collected information. A sophisticated intelligence. One where person A might learn the likes and dislikes of person B and use that knowledge to incline person B towards certain feelings, thoughts, and actions. It’s actually a very good skill to have. The ability to move people through communicate. I think where leans off is when that gained knowledge is used beyond a simple convince someone of my message and goes into a let’s see how far I can go with this person. Can I convince them to give me money. Believe all lies. Trust me without question. Make them see me as a victim or hero. That all takes a lot of intelligence to conduct.

  19. It's "stigma" that keep people from allowing their children around pedophiles too, but you sure don't hear anyone complaining about that. If it keeps people safe, let them generalise complex disorders in terms they can understand!

    You claiming to be non judgemental and scientific doesn't give you some moral high ground. At least not outside of scientific papers.

    Honestly, I don't know how I can trust YOU when you seem so much more worried about how people trying to keep themselves safe might impact literal psychopaths and other similarly empathy lacking individuals.

    I'm no fan of Katie Morton, but my god are the priorities of everyone offended by this whole debacle misplaced.

  20. I really appreciate you distinguishing between the different diagnoses. I found that to be very helpful. This cleared some things up for me. That whole interview she did seemed bizarre to me.I have known quite a few people with sociopathy and a couple with psychopathy. What I have seen is that in therapy they tend to take what they learn there and use it to their personal benefit, but in a way that’s not good for others! I thought that’s what she meant by that.

  21. This man is incredibly intelligent. I appreciate this video. I'm a practicing clinical psychologist and I learned alot from this. Thanks!

  22. Kati had to read from a book, in order to give the viewers a description of what a sociopath is. To me that was a sign, probably an insignificant sign but a sign nonetheless, of unprofessionalism. I tuned out after that.

  23. I respected her a lot but her credibility just plummeted when she joined that YouTube series, she created a way bigger, over exaggerated picture of a common mental illness.

  24. Thanks for this video. There are plenty of videos that always talk about how you need to run away from antisocial people but only few that really tells these kind of important details. My new doctor suggests me to talk more about my disorder with others. But, because of all the misinformation, it's difficult to explain them that you aren't going to kill them or sth.

  25. Little Shaman"s vids are very helpful & well informed,as well. Takes a down-to-earth approach & is clarifying, re-enforcing what I've learned from Vaknin & Grannon. Check her out!

  26. She keeps making videos without addressing what she's done wrong. It makes me sad. Now Shane seems like a sycophant, not an empath. I think they both want popularity and don't care about stigma or the science behind what they're saying

  27. Thank you for posting this, due to Shane's video I really misunderstood what sociopathy was. Alot of my friends who watched his video even went around saying that they were sociopaths simply because they had a few symptoms. Misinformation about mental health issues can be really dangerous considering how stigmatized they already are, I will encourage my friends to watch you video : )

  28. Thank you so much for your perspective, and I'm so encouraged that people are coming to watch this after the Dawson series because it just means people want to know the truth of the disorder beyond the stigma, which is amazing to me.

  29. I just love when neurorypical psych majors talk about mental disorders in general.
    Especially when they keep just focusing on their assumptions of internal motivations that they couldn't hope she wouldn't want to be able to understand.

    I don't have aspd so idk where all the misconceptions are. But I do have bpd so I know enough to know they're probably rampant. But I doubt kati would ever admit it.

  30. I wish she had been a little bit more clinical in her explanations, because it almost made this whole thing seem casual, when this is not a casual topic. I’ve noticed a huge influx of people throwing around “blank is a sociopath! Other blank is a sociopath!!” (Noticeably more so on YouTube since the Jake Paul series”), And it’s this kind of sensationalizing of mental health diagnoses that led to waves of overdiagnosing/misdiagnosing several cases of “dementia praecox/schizophrenia” and later, cases of DID, and later, leading out false “repressed” memories (seemingly because people wanted to be able to work with these phenomenons firsthand.) It’s almost like the Baader-Meinhof phenomenon. All of a sudden, these things were everywhere, and I think it’s important that we try to help the public avoid thinking that “everybody is a sociopath” by pointing out these mistakes when they’re made, and by clarifying extra hard when we talk about these things, that they can only be diagnosed by professionals, and that they’re not as rampant as media and fear can make it seem. Thank you for making this video, it’s really awesome and informative!

  31. I just found your channel but I plan to watch more because I personally think the scientific background really helps back a lot of things in life. I just wanted to know your unbiased opinion on PsychToGo’s short clip videos and how informative AND accurate they are. I feel like I’ve watched them for a while and gotten information from there, so I wanted to verify that what I’ve learned from it is accurate or whether it’s not and I need to relearn my information. Thank you.

  32. I was just redirected here from someone on Boogie's most recent video with Kati Morton. From the start I got the feeling Morton was a bit too unethical in how non-technical she is when speaking on mental health while proclaiming to be an authority on it.
    Also, I can't seem to find a definitive answer to this, but is LMFT a legitimate clinical psychologist credential?

  33. Thank you for teaching me Todd grande. I think kati is good at what she does can't complain because I never asked her for help, just past judgement based on the videos on Shane and I'm not sure if that's good enough; am I judging her as an entertainer, a person or by profession and I'm not going to lie I judge her personally and as a entertainer I think I didn't care for her profession after Shane talked to her in her house and not in a office. I took it personally not because everybody I see as "my friend" or "more than something" the things that were said from all parties weren't so bad and its OK to entertain cause why are you doing it and why are you watching it, right? I just got awkward because sometimes you know people refer to others than who they are accusing that is just a theory because she never knew the Paul's, never meet them nor had therapy sessions so I just assumed what I saw then what it was suppose to be received as. I think Shane was thinking content first and then took it personally yeah I said it work and play and I still think he is a nice guy. As with kati I'm not being mean but even you would agree you can't expect the women to know her stuff if she included a book, but I do believe regardless of what her cert is I do believe she loves the field of psychology in all areas even if she never study it that is my personal opinion then a professional opinion, and I never went to uni so I guess I can't really give an opinion. I didn't like the observation on Jake even where I feel like it wasn't who he really is even though he has his bad and good side. The part where Erika said Logan and Jake are 2 different people I said that once upon a time and no beef toward erika or Logan and Jake but I'm not sure but I think its a YouTube video why would Shane get so much heat for something he doesn't even know nothing about he was just like his fans watching. I never expected less from Shane but I did expect him to take it personal because he talks directly to his fans more than the average famous celebrity and he really does believe in the relationships he has with his audience which I think there is nothing wrong, but could I be wrong that pleasure and business didn't work out for him? I don't want to put him down I've put people down even people that remind me of the Shane's, logans, jakes and Katie so I'm jot trying g to start a fire and burn people or anybody else for that matter. I think kati is down to earth person regardless of any negative opinions or disagreements I've said or thought about her in the past however sometimes you hear the saying some people ain't build for this, I think kati would be amazing in her field of work as an entertainer as you might agree you can't dance around a topic that is more real that doesn't really evolved in anything joyful am I right? Yes I'm asking for clarification not to down kati or prove I'm right but if she said by herself what she thought of someone she knew personally it doesn't matter because she would state before hand of ownership, if she said "i think is what I would think" if I didn't know any better then that's just implying hypothetically scenario which isn't true but is easier to explain to someone at my level she would still get a pass because its just trying to explain what something is, right? Now I'm not sure if I even worded that correctly and if I didn't I fully take responsibility for sure. I wouldn't tell kati or yourself to stop making videos but I just wonder if both are professional would you have to act as a professional then personal, guards down unless you state it before anything or during a conversation? I just thought I'd ask because I don't want to come off as passing judgements all the time even if I do I guess it be nice to learn what I say, either I'm going to get offended or I'll offend someone else we live in a world that spins faster or maybe that's just me haha. I'm going to watch a few more videos, I'm on the hunt to find new creators to subscribe to and I want the best sub library across all the world and haven't quite got my beauty and the beast Bella library yet but watch me I will.

  34. I wish either Shane would reach out to you or vise versa so that the REAL facts can be laid out. He was very misinformed by an unprofessional. Not being rude to her, she's just not the best person to ask about these topics.

  35. You and Michele Laux and I'm sure other Experienced therapists are much better resources for genuine, ethical and compassionate information. Thank you.

  36. Thank u so much for doing this video and for being honest about other you tubers mistakes and clearing the confusion. Katy Morgan was the very first YouTube channel I would watch and get all my info from when I first got outta a very abusive relationship. And I thought I had bpd from dating a psychopath! And a lot of her stuff was incorrect or contradicts just about everything a physician or psychotherapist says. It was very confusing, and it made me second guess a lot of stuff. It wasn’t until I found your channel, @We need to talk with kris Godinez, little shaman healing who I believe isn’t a clinical therapist or MD but damn can she hit you with some great insight and straight forward, easy to interpret info and facts. And of course @BpD mum 🙂 I love all you guys! It’s awesome to see things from every angle and from different points of views and personal experiences. Thanks so much for doing what u do, and sharing all this, it truly has saved me in ways you couldn’t imagine. Let’s just say i wouldn’t be here today if it wasn’t for these videos. Honestly, thank you 🙏🏻 It really is crucial cuz a lot of people in the community binge watch these videos as did I and it totally screwed up my head.
    Thx again dr Grande. Xo ally From Vegas

  37. Dr.Grande, I deeply appreciate your professionalism to your trade. I do not know of that interview or those other individuals but I really enjoy your channel because of the technical nature of your work and the explanations. Very cut and dry and to the point without all the fluff. Keep up the great work.

  38. Thank you for this. After psyshow psych had her on I've just been feeling so shitting, like her treatment towards mentally ill people doesn't matter and no one cares how her actions increased stigma and hurt people and even though this video is older, it's nice to always be able to come back to a real professional and be reminded that we aren't crazy, she is wrong, and some people DO care.

  39. Although this was months ago, I'm just learning of this and just want to tell you what a relief it was to see your thoughtful response. This is how we psychotherapists are taught to behave and I'm glad you've provided responsible information. May I just say though, that though you are trying to be considerate re: her license, any Master's level therapist is taught proper diagnosis, empirically supported treatment, and ethics. I know you're trying to be understanding with this, but in my experience anyway, the graduate school, supervision, internship and continuing education training provides extensive information regarding the nature of these constructs and ethical behavior.

    Thanks again for this video. THIS is a professional perspective. ~Michele

  40. Not watched your video Dr, just from the title ….Naming ppl is wrong, I’m sure some ppl disagree with your content but don’t name & shame, thats improper, majority of ppl who have been in relationships with borderlines know the abuse they inflict and the manipulations and then borderlines say they are the victims!! Borderlines are toxic. The only way to stay safe is to avoid as any Good clinician advises. Meds may relive associated issues such as anxiety suicidal behaviours low mood but as such No cure. DBT does not work for all and its a lifelong process.

  41. So psychopathy is not a personality disorder? Is it a independent phenomenom or does it fall in a different category? I find this confusing since it seems to have similar charactteristics as ASPD or NPD.

  42. i really could have let kati go with a stumble or mistake with all shanes vdo n editing n involvement… but what triggered me was how she came up with the explanation vdo… that disgusted me.

  43. Sociopaths are gross and disgusting. I'm not a doctor but I believe I have more personal experience with them than you. I have an entire family of them. I have also dated many and have attracted friends into my life that fall on the spectrum. I was conditioned to accept abuse and didn't quite understand boundaries. I did not know a darn thing about these kind of people growing up but I knew something was terribly wrong. I had been victimized by all of them. They cause great harm to others. I am very empathic and caring so I was their perfect target. They preyed upon me. They are evil and can never ever change. You cant offend one, they don't give a dam what you think. So it is wise to warn other humans that actually have a conscience, heart and soul. These are dangerous predator type people and there is no way to say it nicely. These are people I love and care about, this is painful pill to swallow. But I need to love myself more than them because I have a child now to care for. I had to cut all contact with all of them, it had to be done to protect myself. I had to grieve the loss of my entire family but I have no regrets. And I'll never sugar coat their wildly abusive, gross, disgusting behavior.

  44. Thank you, doctor. We have enough difficulties to deal with as it is, just to be functioning individuals of society. No one deserves to be publicly shamed for any illness.

  45. Love your videos! I have heard often that sociopathy and psychopathy are now grouped under antisocial pd. Is that factual?

  46. I wish that these so-called 'scientists' in the field of psychology would stop trying to gain acceptance of the field as a 'science' in the classical sense.  It is impossible to gain and apply truly quantifiable data in psychology, as in, say, physics or astronomy.  Years ago there was an article in Psychology Today magazine, written by Rollo May, in which the author stated that quite often a person's bartender, hairdresser, or even close friend could be as 'therapeutic' as a clinician with a wall full of degrees and certificates.  The American Psychiatric Association went absolutely berserk over the article.  The biggest problem for the members of this 'august' association, however, was the fact that, at the time, Rollo May was the PRESIDENT of the A.P.A.!  Stop trying to bash Kati Morton for not adhering to your so-called 'ethics'.  (By the way, I have two undergraduate degrees, including a bachelor's degree, in psychology.)

  47. Can you do a video that is a criticism of Richard Grannon (Spartanlifecoach) and his description of the covert narcissist? If you have time!

  48. Kati Morton is herself a psychopath, she doesn't care how her videos harm people with ASPD< as long as her channel gets lots of subscribers

  49. this is a great explanation, thank you for taking the time to make this video. i have aspd and the stigma around it is ridiculous.

  50. All the people asking why Shane didn't get someone else. Big reason is because psychologist and psychiatrist are not allowed to publicly diagnose which was the whole point of the series. They would potentially have their licenses suspended.

  51. As soon as I heard her say "marriage and family therapist" I tuned her out. I've worked in mental health for 20 years, and I'd be a very rich man if I had a dollar for every masters level therapist that felt overly confident enough to speak outside their area of expertise because they "read the latest research." I'd be an even richer man if I had a dollar for every doctor that had to gently correct them and remind them to stay in their lane.

  52. My dad has schizoid personality disorder so it's awesome to see someone that knows the difference between different personality disorders.

  53. Thank you so much. You are one of the few educators that I've listened to that geniuely have a gift for teaching in a very thorough, fun , sincerely, and easily understood manner. I have great respect for the way you present the information scienfically without bias and judement! Bravo bravo. I'm learning so much conceptually and it's amazing. Thank you

  54. I used to watch Kati all the time. I was taken aback to see her in that video and her way of talking about the diagnosis really put me off her. I felt she sold out for popularity.
    So glad to have found this video. I thought it was just me who had concerns about that video. Thanks Dr Grande.

  55. Your detailed explanations are much appreciated and spread light what are often misunderstood conditions. Thank you.

  56. Hello there, I was wondering if someone is diagnosed with aspd are they a "sociopath"? Or can someone have aspd with out being a psychopath or a sociopath.

  57. To rephrase my question, are "antisocial personality disorder" and "sociopathy" interchangeable? Are they the same thing? Or can a person have aspd and not be a sociopath?

  58. Kati Morton is a fraud and plagiarist who gets by on her looks. I once came across a video of her’s in which she repeated the words of another professional verbatim without even giving credit. I was pretty shocked and watched the two videos back to back for comparison. After that, I never watched Kati Morton’s videos again.

  59. I'm seeing a lot of videos responding to the issue you are here. You mentioned the "people suffering from aspd," but isn't it really the people who are targeted by those with aspd that are the real sufferers? I mean isn't that almost what defines aspd…the suffering they bring the people around them?

  60. From who I know, people with antisocial traits (and possibly the personality disorder itself, obviously I can’t diagnose someone), it really is a struggle. A friend of mine who acts more antisocial than almost anyone I’ve met just tried to kill himself and now he’s in rehab. I know another who is clearly extremely depressed about a part of his body and the antisocial behavior he exhibits in effort to quell any thoughts one might have about his insecurities get him into situations he is just not suited for. They have no moral problem living a lie, but when outed for lying by people, they are extremely uncomfortable. To call these traits “gross and creepy” is, as you said, extremely unfair. It’s kind of like people who are addicted to drugs. They can’t help using drugs, as all the science says, but they’re still hurt, judged, and mistreated immensely because of it. Lying, stealing, and manipulating are, yes, bad things to do. It’s why they’re called antisocial behaviors. But people with the disorder can not control themselves because they can not see a reason to not act out in such a way.

    We’ve all been outed for a lie and it feels terrible. Even for those morally and emotionally stunted people, imagine what it’s like to constantly lie, and live in fear of being outed or how it feels to constantly be outed. I actually cannot believe that a LMFT called their symptoms “gross and creepy.” That’s just unbelievable.

    Also the fact that they’re much more likely to be killed or end up in prison, given their criminal versatility, I consider them to suffer more tangible consequences than any other non-terminal illness, especially of the mind. Add that to its highly ineffectual treatments, and its perpetuity, and you have a large group of people who are suffering deeply and tragically.

  61. Thanks Dr. Grande.
    This video really helped me understand some facts. I did not watch the video of Kati, but I went looking for some explanation and you really helped. Now I understand (me in peticulair) much better! Thank you.

  62. was watching the vid speaking about 2 hours ago and liked the narcissistic topic about it and was really into the socio. Now this video gets recommended and told me your view. Thank you and love your upload rate.

  63. As somebody diagnosed with ASPD…it interested me that somebody who says she is a professional got so many things wrong. It really seemed like she read that book "The Sociopath Next Door" and based all her knowledge from it…right down to the 4% prevalency statistic.

    Just ridiculous in my opinion.

  64. Kati morton, i hate her. Unsubbed to her, she is a narcissist who only cares about herself and being popular. Hate me, i really could not care anymore

  65. I would like it if you could comment on Peter Monn and his claims to being a psychotherapist and counsellor. To me he comes across as a bully re: h i s treatment of Rich Lux

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