Magic Mushrooms, Mental Health, & The 2020 Elections: Why States May Vote on Psilocybin Soon…


(upbeat music) – Well hello, and welcome
back to Rogue Rocket. My name is Philip DeFranco
and today we’re gonna be talking about magic mushrooms. Now, ‘shrooms might be
one of the last things to come to mind when we’re talking about medication and mental health. But research has shown that
they actually have been proven to help with various mental health issues, with things like depression,
anxiety, OCD, PTSD, and even addiction. But, you might be wondering,
Phil, aren’t magic mushrooms illegal in the United States? And you’re not entirely wrong. But there is a place to change that and that’s what we’re
going to be discussing in today’s Deep Dive. Something to note, if you’re an American, then you might actually be voting on whether to decriminalize
or medicalize ‘shrooms in the 2020 elections,
depending on where you live. But, to tell you more
about this controversy, the proposed legislation
surrounding the issue, and why magic mushrooms
could be a hot topic in the 2020 elections,
I’m gonna turn it over to Alex Myers from the Rogue Rocket team. – [Alex] Like Phil mentioned,
magic mushrooms are illegal in most of the U.S., but to be exact, ‘shrooms aren’t what the
U.S. government criminalized. It’s actually the compound produced by them, called psilocybin. This compound makes people experience the psychoactive effects of ‘shrooms. And so far in 2019, Oakland and Denver have decriminalized it, which has started a ton of conversations. – Holy shit, man, it passed. – [Man offscreen] Denver voters approve measure to decriminalize
psychedelic mushrooms. – God, too damn awesome.
– That’s amazing. – [Man Offscreen] Congratulations
Denver. (clapping) – My family all lives in Denver. Other family and friends around Colorado, they think it’s been terrible. – [Man offscreen] Yeah, oh really? – Yeah, I mean, they’re not happy. And, look, and I know, all the hate comes at you if you say that. I’m for states’ rights,
and I get that, and I know, sometimes, you know, that saying, you have to be for what’s going to happen. – Psilocybin advocates
in California and Oregon are already planning to create petitions to change state laws around the substance. If these petitions are successful, people in those states
will have the chance to vote on psilocybin come November 2020. Initiative groups in both states vary in what they want for psilocybin. Some want medicalization,
some want decriminalization. And if either initiative
gets enough signatures, it will be the first time in U.S. history that it’s on a state ballot. But before we can go any
farther into the politics surrounding ‘shrooms and how
the government classifies it, let’s look at what research
says about its effects. When you consume psilocybin,
your body breaks it down to a chemical called psilocin. Similar to the structure of serotonin, which is the chemical in your
brain that makes you happy, psilocin connects to your
serotonin 2A receptors. This connection triggers
a long series of reactions in your brain, kind of
like a domino effect, which makes the dormant parts
of your brain more active. When more parts are active,
more connections are made. And this takes the brain from
its current mode to a new one. Let’s use the analogy of a highway. While sober, your brain might
have a few open highways, but on psilocybin, many
more highways are built, which increases the
interconnectivity of the brain. This increased activity
and connection is why many doctors believe that magic mushrooms can be therapeutic and medicinal. Dr. George Greer is the president of the Hefter Research
Institute, which focuses on studying the medicinal
effects of psychedelics. He explained that there have been multiple medicinal benefits of psilocybin, documented by research. – The main things, helps with depression and anxiety, especially
if it’s induced by stress, like in the research with
cancer patients who are stressed by getting a diagnosis of
a life-threatening cancer, just one dose of psilocybin
with several hours of therapy led to reductions in their
anxiety and depression for 80% of ’em, so for about six months. So that was the most amazing finding. But two pilot studies with both alcohol and tobacco addiction also
showed dramatic improvements for months, and up to a year with smoking. – [Alex] Psilocybin has also
been noted to help with PTSD. A Wired article documented
a man who used it to treat his PTSD, and after taking it, he has not experienced
a single episode since. However, there are some negative
side effects to psilocybin. Dr. Greer said that people
who have a family history of psychosis should not take it, because using it could
trigger a manic episode. And if it’s used outside
of a controlled setting, your judgment can be impaired and may put you in dangerous situations. So, for example, you
shouldn’t drive on it. But even with this research, the government views it differently. The FDA considers psilocybin
a Schedule I substance. And just for context,
other Schedule I substances include heroin, LSD, ecstasy, and even the highly-debated cannabis. So this means that it is
considered to have no accepted medicinal use and a high
potential for abuse. The only way that it could
lose its Schedule I status is if researchers were able
to form an FDA-approved psilocybin medication. In the scientific community,
some researchers and doctors have encouraged this change
through various studies. A group of John Hopkins researchers argued for psilocybin to have its
Schedule I status removed. And they backed their
argument in a review titled, The abuse potential of
medical psilocybin according to the 8 factors of the
Controlled Substances Act. In that review, they
highlighted multiple studies which showed that psilocybin
has a low risk for overdoses. They further argued that
it should be changed to a Schedule IV substance. This would classify it as
having a lower potential for abuse and a lower risk for dependency. Another study, done at
Imperial College London tested how it would affect people with treatment-resistant depression. It found that psilocybin
helped significantly reduce depression in all participants, and the effects lasted up to three months. The life science company Compass Pathways, used this study to receive breakthrough therapy designation
for psilocybin therapy. Breakthrough therapy
designation is only given in cases when a substance
could help a serious or life-threatening condition. In psilocybin’s case, the
FDA has sped up the process for Compass Pathways to experiment on it as a medication for
treatment-resistant depression, so now, Compass Pathways is
the first company to conduct a large-scale psilocybin
therapy clinical trial. If the company produces a
medication that the FDA approves, then Americans will be able to receive psilocybin medication even if their state has not medicalized or decriminalized it. And cases like this have happened before. Adderall’s an FDA-approved medication that has been prescribed to people with ADD and ADHD for years. It’s made out of amphetamine
and dextroamphetamine, which are both criminalized, but people can legally
use these substances if they are prescribed
Adderall by a doctor. Dr. Greer described what potential psilocybin therapy would look like. A patient would go through
a series of psychological and physical health tests. A therapist would then
explain to them the potential effects of psilocybin. A few days later, they
would come in to take it. During the experience, the
patient would be sitting next to the therapist, but
they would only talk to them to ask for water and other assistance. After, the patient would go to a couple of follow-up sessions to talk about how to incorporate their
experience into their lives. So now, let’s take a look
at states that are trying to change laws around psilocybin. In California, there’s
a push to decriminalize psilocybin statewide by an organization called Decriminalize California. Ryan Manevar is the campaign
director for the organization. Along with his colleagues,
they are trying to make decriminalizing psilocybin a question on the November 2020 state ballot. The group will have 180 days
to gain over 620,000 signatures once they submit their
proposal for the bill. If this proposal gets enough signatures and receives a green light from voters, Californians will no
longer have to worry about going to jail and facing fines for possessing, growing, consuming, transporting, and distributing
psilocybin mushrooms. But this doesn’t mean
that anyone would be able to start legally selling it in California. And you’re probably
wondering why they chose not to include legalization
in their initiative. Ryan explained why it
was important to only decriminalize and not legalize psilocybin. – So, the biggest difference is, if you actually start for the
allowing of it to be sold, that turns from a decriminalization model into a highly regulated
legalization model. And, that requires a permitting system, a regulatory board that would review it, and then the nightmare of
hyper-overregulation and taxes. So this is more like a
quasi-legal system in that sense, where you can do all these
things, except try to sell it, and that’s a fantastic thing. So instead of having to overregulate it, it just wipes it off. So it’s, in essence, pretty much as legal as it is to grow corn, at the state level. – [Alex] Taking the
conversation out of California, let’s look at Oregon, where they’re taking a different route. The Oregon Psilocybin
Society wants to legalize psilocybin-assisted therapy, but unlike the California initiative, their focus is not on decriminalization. The initiative would lay out a structure of how psilocybin therapy
would be legally conducted. Their measure will need over 112,000 valid petition signatures
from Oregon voters for it to make the state ballot. Then there’s Colorado. While there are no
initiatives to decriminalize psilocybin in Colorado statewide, the city of Denver has decriminalized it. And Denver is important in this story because it’s the first city
in the U.S. to do this. A group called Decriminalize Denver spearheaded the initiative. It was better-known as the
Denver Psilocybin initiatve, and it passed by less than 2000 votes. Cindy Sovine, the chief
political strategist of Decriminalize Denver
explained that the initiative made possession, cultivation
and consumption of psilocybin the lowest priority for law enforcement. This means the Denver local
government couldn’t use any of its money to prosecute people for psilocybin mushrooms. But there has been some backlash since Denver decriminalized psilocybin. Jeff Hunt is the director
of a faith-based think tank called the Centennial Institute. After decriminalization,
he posted tweets saying: Like marijuana, this
is not about medicine. This is about profit. This is about getting to a place where large companies have
the financial incentive to get as many people hooked
on these drugs as they can. It’s big tobacco, big
opioids, big marijuana, all over again. Mushroom decriminalization advocates want to decriminalize other drugs. Not just a Colorado movement, but gaining momentum nationally. Larger issues at stake. Decriminalization leads to legalization, leads to commercialization,
leads to more use, leads to more public health issues, leads to bigger government. An article done by the Daily Sentinel expressed other concerns
about decriminalization. It brought up that, even
though there are many benefits, there are side effects that are unknown due to a lack of research. And there are also disagreements between psilocybin supporters, especially when it comes to putting it in the hands of health care professionals. The main reason why some
oppose medicalization is due to price, control
and monopolization. – It should only be decriminalized
and not medicalized. I think the medical route is a trap and I think it’s a bad one. I think if you medicalize
this, you’re still making it impossible for the average
consumer to grow their own, which, the cost difference
of growing their own versus having to go to a
large-scale pharmaceutical company is disproportionate to
the value you get from it. Eric Davis is a journalist
who has been documenting psilocybin for years,
and he recently wrote an article about how
‘shrooms will be influenced by large companies conducting
research in trying to patent psilocybin medications. He wrote: The psychedelic
community, which no longer really exists as a singular
entity, if it ever did, can no longer pretend that
the process of mainstreaming is a purely positive,
hope-for-humanity development that is separate from the
larger crises of capitalism, militarism, authoritarianism,
and the intensification of technological control
over subjectivity. And he’s not just
referencing Compass Pathways, who is trying to make
psilocybin medication, because there are other corporations trying to do similar things too. But there are other advocates who believe that decriminalization and
medicalization can both happen, but only in a certain order. – If you start by decriminalizing
and making it so that you are not losing your
children or going to jail for using this on your
own, you can also begin the medical research pathway. But where I caution people is, the second that you go down
saying, this is the only legal pathway, the only right and just way to access these medicines. All other ways, recreational use, all of those others, those are not okay, you start going back
down a path of deciding that people should be going to jail and losing their children for using it in this way instead of that way. – [Alex] So, while there are advocates in certain states,
you’re probably wondering if there are politicians who support it. So far, when considering the 2020 U.S. presidential elections, currently only Democratic
candidate, Pete Buttigieg, has pledged to decriminalize all drugs. Although he never specifically
mentioned psilocybin, he reasoned that decriminalization will help lower prison populations and help combat mental health
issues in the United States. In more recent news,
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez tried to make it easier
to conduct research on Schedule I substances,
including psilocybin. She made an amendment to a spending bill which would delete a
provision that allows money to be taken away from institutions that research Schedule I substances. By deleting this provision,
the Department of Education would not be able to decrease
funding for universities that research psilocybin. But the amendment was
rejected by the House. State governments are also trying to amend laws concerning psilocybin. Iowa representative Jeff
Shipley is a state congressman advocating for psilocybin
laws in his state. He is trying to pass two
bills in the Iowa House that would decriminalize psilocybin and make it a Schedule II substance. This would mean that the
state would recognize its medicinal benefits,
and it could open doors for Iowa doctors to do more research. These bills have not been approved yet, but it shows that there are actions taken by local governments to change laws around psilocybin mushrooms. Keep in mind, changes in psilocybin laws might not affect many people currently, and they certainly
aren’t as highly debated as cannabis laws in the U.S. But a study done by the
Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration found that in 2018 over 42,000 Americans
reported using hallucinogens in their lifetime. Although in the study,
psilocybin use was so low, that it was grouped with
mescaline and other substances under the same category. And before Denver decriminalized it, only 50 people per year were arrested for psilocybin-related
cases from 2016 to 2018, leading many critics to wonder if this is a debate
worth currently having. Even though there is a
small number of people reportedly using hallucinogens, this doesn’t mean that psilocybin itself won’t be a hot-button topic
in the 2020 elections. In all our research, and
when speaking with experts, we found that there is
still much more to learn about its full effects on the brain. More debates will inevitably arise if it’s made into an
FDA-approved medication, and we’ll have to wait to
see whether laws change around it in California and
Oregon in the near future. – So, with all of that said,
and everything we’ve showcased, we wanna pass the question off to you. Do you believe in a
government-regulated system to decriminalize magic mushrooms? Is making therapy the
only way to get the drug too limiting for those who may not have the time or money to do so? And how would you feel if, in your state, growing ‘shrooms in the
backyard was considered the same as having just an orange tree? From the looks of it,
these questions and more will remain up for debate as
the 2020 elections approach. But, with that said, I’d
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100 thoughts on “Magic Mushrooms, Mental Health, & The 2020 Elections: Why States May Vote on Psilocybin Soon…

  1. It's hard to have a proper conversation about any non pharmaceutical or illegal drug nowadays, the topic is so incredibly stigmatised. People immediately look to the worst and it takes one bad case for the entire drug to be put down. If we are willing to accept alcohol in particular as a widely available drug, which has a myriad of health issues, cancers, deadly overdose etc, then why not allow other drugs provided that their health risk does not exceed that of alcohol. My father is a GP and the moment I talked to him about having tried pscilicibin truffles (legal where I live) and asked for his views, he was immediately against them, citing psychosis risk, even after 1 time use. This is a risk that also exists with alcohol and is immensely rare, he has no qualms with alcohol being legal, it is judgement based on emotions rather than objectivity that he made I believe. Why can we not put feelings aside and try to look at facts?

  2. Decriminalize all drugs. I don’t care what drugs my next door neighbor is doing, so long as they’re not hurting anyone else.

  3. Shrooms saved my life when I tried them for the first time at one of the worst, most severly depressed points of my life. Decriminalize them

  4. You definitely don't grow them in the back yard. You need a cool, damp, dark location to grow these things. A cellar is more appropriate.

  5. I think the same way that traditional cultures around the world have used hallucinogens in ceremonies for centuries that yes it should be legal BUT it should be used in the presence of someone who knows what they are doing. I know psychosis runs in my family but my little brother was surprised when he heard us talking about it because he had somehow missed that memo. It’s important to have a medical history and someone trained to act as a spotter should things go wrong, it’s not something for recreation as far as I’m concerned.

  6. Coloradoan here. Growing shrooms in the backyard would be unwise due to the nature of fungus and spores, and around here it'd be much too dry, but apart from that candidly I don't think anyone in the culture here would care or notice. All seriousness aside lol, I'm glad we're finally entering this era politically. Shrooms aren't my personal preference but I minidose LSD when I can, and it's incredibly helpful.

  7. I think homo sapiens gain consciousness because they bend down and ate those mushrooms. And the more they ate, the more pathway they gain in their mind.

  8. Psychedelics are the opposite to anything addictive, they can help get rid of addiction to hard drugs and micro dosing is definitely worth looking into for anyone interested in something that will help with depression and mood.

  9. Isn't growing mushroom dangerous? I've been told the level of substances in mushroom varies greatly from mild to deadly even within the same species. Maybe I am influenced by knowing two people who found what they thought were "magic mushrooms" and ended up in the hospital having their stomachs pumped. Defnitely research should be allowed…what if even the most addictive dangerous drug in existence has a theraputic level and value? Why not use it to help people? It's ridiculous to me that the government does not allowed research on certain drugs.

  10. I 100% believe mushrooms, LSD and some other hallucinogenic are extremely helpful in some things! They can bring up some underlining mental issues.

  11. I like the topics and the content, but it sometimes a bit too fast and maybe too "robotic" to follow the videos. I don't have any problem when it's Phil, although he speaks really fast too, so I guess it's just a difference in the intonations and the script. It's often really difficult for me to watch the rogue rocket videos till the end, yet I always find the topics interesting… Maybe it's just me

  12. So the use of mushrooms is decided by a poll and the number of people being arrested with them? Maybe you just keep them at home….. because you’re not gonna use them on the way to work and you wanna be secure before beginning?

  13. A lot of this I already knew from a “drugs and behavior” course I took in college but I’m soooo happy that this information is coming to the main stream. Namely, the facts that hallucinogenic like LSD and shrooms are not likely to be dependency forming at all because of how they work in the brain as well as that psilocybin has demonstrated great potential in the biomedical/psychological field. Overall, after having learned that, even though I don’t know if I’d ever want to try them, I think they should be reduced in their scheduling and be decriminalized. I didn’t think of what was said regarding the price difference of growing your own and how medicalization wouldn’t be wanted by some. That’s a super interesting level to this. It really shows how political our pharmaceutical industry is.

  14. Personally, I'm against drug use in general, excepting medical use. Whatever laws or policies mean less people in total use drugs not prescribed to them by a licensed medical professional, that's the laws and policies I'll support. Especially, of course, substances that are addictive and therefore skew people's ability to make rational choices. And drugs destroying your body are worse than those that don't. But yeah, ideally I'd like to see a society where people use neither alcohol, tobacco, weed, coke, psilocybin, meth, whetever. The less of that shit, the better.

  15. Cindy Sovine couldn't have been more spot on. Well said.

    I suggest people look into Michael Pollan's work on the subject.

  16. I've taken shrooms, for my depression and anxiety. It worked SO WELL. But sadly, I ran out so now I'm back to feeling anxious and depressed all the time.

  17. You wouldn't just grow magic mushrooms in your back yard. Generally it would be more in an environment you can control sun exposure and humidity.

  18. I think the best path right now is conduct research on mushroom's benefits and side effects, I dont think it should be available to public if we dont know everything about it. but decriminalizing it and other drugs i think would be a good step in right direction so people who have addictions can get help

  19. It is physically impossible to become addicted to mushrooms. Your body gains a tolerance to it so quickly, you can only take a high dose MAYBE twice a week and still be affected by it. Then you have to take a few days off of it before you can get high on it again

  20. Jeff hunt did you just say that marijuana is addictive like tobacco, alcohol, and opioid? Throw yourself off a bridge your part of the misinformation rampant at the moment.

  21. 8:51

    Jeff hunt is a moron. It's gaining momentum because decriminalization is keeping parents trying to do something they happen to be good at to get by out of a prison system they don't need to be in. Local government is benefiting by getting taxes off of something they were once spending to combat and are now spending to regulate.

    Now in the case of Psilocibin, I understand stopping at decriminalization. Most people would prefer to keep it simple and eat the mushrooms but that's hard to guarantee any specific amount for medical or recreational regulation. I don't know what the answer is there, but maybe I would if I had extra highways in my brain allowing for a shift in perspective.

  22. 9:05

    That's easy, just peer review all of Germany's to start with and then do some of our own.

    I give it 2 years after Mary Jane goes full legal federally at worst that votes start stacking for a domino effect.

  23. 11:35

    I'm all for the face of what AOC was trying to do….. But knowing her, the proposal had some other socialist Trojan horse in it like how the Green New Deal was a socialist starter package marketed as a pro-environment stance. Environmentalists were not happy with her and the Dems degrading their cause.

  24. Decriminalization would be a fantastic first step. We need to remove the barriers to researching the effects. Yes, I would love to see it legalized eventually! I am willing to push gov't to start taking those first steps

  25. Funny how illegal drugs continue to have health benefits, while legal drugs like cigarettes and alcohol just kill people. But I guess the medical industry can't make billions of dollars from drug sales if cheaper alternatives that they can't own the rights to are available. Not to mention people getting sick/injured from cigarettes and alcohol is good for business.

  26. This was a good video, so I am saying this to give constructive feedback: the delivery could use some work. The audio seemed breathy and the speaker seemed nervous.

  27. mushrooms are extremely hard to become addicted to because your tolerance to psilocybin builds up really fast so once you do it for like 3 days in a row you won't really feel the effects at all by day 3. shroom trips naturally need to be spaced out. personally, i have never came off of a shroom trip and wanted to do it again immediately. It's like a road trip, it was fun but exhausting and I'm glad to be home. You get a sort of comfort in sobriety once it's over

  28. Psychedelics saved my life. I think, and everyone I know that's tried them thinks, that these mushrooms have the power to heal the world. This isn't a party drug, sure it's fun to take at a festival, but if you take this with the intention of healing you will heal. It might be unpleasant, the term "bad trip" get thrown around but a lot of us experienced with these chemicals believe there are no bad trips, only challenging, and a challenging trip teaches you more about yourself than anything else.

    And fuck that guy who says they're trying to get people hooked. Anyone studying this shit can tell you that psychedelics are not addictive. They build a tolerance fast and the more people take them the less they want to over time.

  29. As someone who has treatment resistant mental illness I would love to try this treatment . It would be so much better , I have been on so many different meds . None have helped

  30. They don't know all the effects of mushrooms? I'm pretty sure that over the past 60 years that Americans have been taking them, everything that could go wrong already has for someone.

  31. No addictions should remain criminal. All drugs should be decriminalised so that those possesing for personal use can't have their lives ruined, and can decide to get help whenever needed without fear. However, the sale and distribution of them should remain illegal. Each commonly used drug should also teach about proper use, through publicly available sources, including how to microdose and balance healthy living with self medicating use. Jail only increases addiction rates and should only be a last resort.

  32. I TOTALLY support decriminalization, I hope we Californians are able to vote on it in 2020!
    I also agree with the lady who advises against medicalizing without decriminalizing, she made some excellent points.
    I was curious about the way it could be used in therapy sessions…. the scenario depicted seemed like the patient would remain still and quiet, unless they had questions or initiated conversation. Would the therapist respond back and forth I wonder?

  33. Alcohol and all other drugs that have anywhere near similar effects are still regulated. Completely regulating it is not wise.
    But it should be decriminalized.

  34. I'm a huge advocate for the legalization of shrooms. I decided to brew myself a tea last year, and even half a tea cup was enough to leave me feeling far less anxious and my PTSD symptoms were greatly relaxed for up to four months. I decided to try them when I read an article from someone who suffered abuse, who got to try them in a controlled study. That information really helped me make an educated decision and I think the government needs to be an advocate for self education about certain drugs. It is far safer than allowing Big Pharmaceutical companies to be the only ones allowed to experiment with illegal substances.

  35. I'm in oregon and i hope to gods they legalize this i genuinely believe if you micro dose once in a while does wonders i have D.I.D and depression severve stress and anxiety disorders. They truly do help

  36. I take CBD oil (it's the part of marijuana that doesn't make you high and xan be derived from hemp as well) which has been the first thing I have ever taken that stops my hemiplegic migraines before they escalate and leave me bedridden for up to two weeks. It also is the best thing for when my anxiety spikes or I'm trying to have a panic attack. All with little to no negative side effects. And it was never suggested by any of my doctors (including specialists!). I was given medications with bad side effects and serious long term effects. They all barely worked, if at all.

    I took CBD oil because a friend gave me a bottle to try to help my anxiety and even then I only tried it to make her happy. I was a huge skeptic and blew off (even when it worked because placebos right?). I've been taking it as needed for months now and through myself and friends, I've seen it work for anxiety, seizure reduction, migraines, topically for sore muscles and when I threw out my back, and pain and swelling from impacted wisdom teeth (she went from unable to even open her mouth to eating a burger)! I brought it up to my doctors (general, neuro, migraine, and psy) and none of them were aware of it's uses and were very sceptical to dismissive of it.

    All of this is why both decriminalization and legalization are so important. Don't make it a crime to have or to try them. Push treatment for adiction (like the medical condition it is) instead of throwing every person in jail who looks at a drug sideways (including those who use it as a treatment for a condition they have). Push medical research and make it okay for doctors to prescribe it at a reasonable level (instead of just a blank ticket with a nod) so that doctors will be trained on it's uses, benefits, interactions, contraindications, side effects, and which patients are the best candidates to try it. Sure doing both means that any joe blow can order things like psychedelic mushrooms on Amazon under the same category as tylenol or just grab some when they go to the drug store, but it also means that doctors will have copious amounts of solid research on it (instead of rare papers done on a small scale and occasional case studies) and can prescribe it safely. You could even make it a law that over the counter varieties have to be weaker or smaller doses (to keep people new to using such things from taking more than what's safe without the supervision and approval of a doctor) and have contact information for support centers and the like right on the package for those who might have a problem. More dangerous ones (like crack and meth) would most likely never be sold in stores, but decriminalizing would still make it easier for people to get help and make it easier for those who have prescriptions to get their medications (my best friend has narcolepsy and is actually prescribed meth and rophies for her condition, so trust me when I say just about every street drug is another person's medical treatment).

  37. Shrooms are great. You don't need a therapist to help you with them to get some healthy benefit from doing shrooms. Do them in nature, and the nature it self will be the therapist. I did them more times that I can remember back in my college days, and to not go into to long a detail… the only change and lasting effects that my constant trips left me is a deeper appreciation of everything in life… small and big. Nature, Animals, Art, Music, solitude, companionship, color… to name a few.

    I believe it wholeheartedly that there is medicinal value in taking shrooms… or Psilocybin.

  38. If a chemical is less harmful than alcohol,
    then why should our ability to use it be any more restricted than alcohol ?

    And then the additional fact that something has medical applications which need to be studied makes the criminalization of it downright immoral.
    Typical emotional conservatism bullshit.

    Btw I’m not much of a drug user myself — rarely drink to get get drunk and just will share some weed with a friend on special occasions. But I have tried psilocybin mushrooms, on 2 occasions, and aside from really memorable bonding experiences, it was remarkable how my clinically severe OCD urges totally melted away, at least for 24 hours or so.

    So, lock me up!

    Those few experiences of feeling what it’s like for me to not be bothered by my OCD is mainly what encouraged me to FINALLY give medication a try.

    Selective Serotonin Re-uptake Inhibitors (SSRIs) don’t make ocd symptoms vanish as magically as the mushrooms did for me, but they can help enough to get your life together, without the trippy side effects.

    a few months of consistent use of the drug prescribed to me, and it’s gradually elevated the anxiety of resisting compulsions, which is the chemical assist I needed to get on track and discipline myself with exposure therapy.

    Ok Good luck psychonauts and regular folks,
    and please vote wisely with science-based reasoning as your guide

  39. 1:10 Oh great another FOX lady has relatives with a knee-jerk conservative opinion. What a compelling anecdote to overshadow all the appointments evidence and reasons for Re-scheduling or decriminalizing.

    I wonder if anyone cares to ask her to give her family’s reasons for hating whatever they hate this time ? or if they’ll just let the FOX audience take for granted some ill-defined notion of maniacs on Psilocybin mushrooms loitering menacingly on their lawn

    It’s not like all rules for usage will be taken away.
    I trust it will at least remain illegal to be intoxicated while driving, underage, or out of control in public…

  40. Referring to psilocybin as “Magic shrooms” on mainstream news just serves to discredit and bias fearful social conservatives against it.

  41. As a California voter, I fully support the decriminalization of these mushrooms. However I am also in favor of more research to assist those in true need of its medical benefits. Until America cracks down on Big Pharma, the people who charge so much for insulin—a drug made for pennies— that people are dying because they can’t afford it, I don’t want them to have any control over it. Research is always good in my eyes and giving people more understanding and knowledge of how to help themselves or where to find the resources is a win in my book. I started using cannabis for pain management in March of this year and though it as helped a lot, I wish there was a way to test and figure out medicinally what doses, strands, and products target most successful my pain, anxiety, and depression. Whenever I go to a dispensary it honestly irks me when the clerks through around the term patient when they have no training in pharmacology as applied to the human body. It often just creates more anxiety of not knowing if I’m spending my very meager funds on a trial-by-error product. Alright, some “errors” have been fun, but I’m stuck with it till the justifiable purchase. I’m just tired of ignorance and often down right stupidity blocking real help people need. If there are potential cures and help for our ailments then I believe it’s our duty to explore all avenues with hard data and science and not be price-gouged for it. I’ve never done mushrooms myself but I do hope I can try some for my birthday in the future. And I only even began considering it when I saw the FDA approval report on its verified studied use and reviewed some of those studies. I hope it’s one of the measures I get to vote on 2020.

  42. I'm bipolar and have to regularly take psych meds. Mushrooms wouldn't be a good idea for me because it can cause mania but if it can help other people then great. We need a bigger spotlight on mental health in this country. It's not right that people get shamed for wanting help. Many who don't deal with this sort of thing on a day to day basis really don't seem to get it.

  43. Been considering taking these after my years of being addicted to adderall (it was prescribed for my ADD) are well past me. Taken acid before and loved it, though I shouldn't have had greasy food before I did lol. Just unsure if it's that different of a trip. Really would love to be somewhere I didnt have to be paranoid and uncomfortable to try it out.

  44. I've had drastic results after starting to consume LSD, which structurally is very similar to Psilocin, a couple of times per year. My depression is pretty much gone now

  45. All drugs should be decriminalized and more rehab centers and programs should be easily accessible for those who can't function while using their drug of choice

  46. Well, just for anyone who is wondering you can grow shrooms at home and all the things you need to use are all legal to buy, it just becomes illegal when you plant it. like cannabis in most countrys you can buy the seeds the tent, lights fans everything you need ( just don't get caught ). But unlike growing weed you just need a jar or plastic tub, certain soil and nothing really gives you away, cannabis puts your electricity bill up and the word dank seems weak compared to 4 plants growing. Grow your own shrooms grow your own weed and if your lucky enough grow your own food

  47. Ok I know I'm in the minority here, but what on Earth is wrong with people. Magic mushroom, marijuana, etc., is NOT BLOODY CORN. Holy moly. It comes with a LOT more responsibility and care and is not something you should be reckless with. Now I'm not for people going to jail but I'm certainly not for having it be grown like it's just some other crop on the market. That is absolutely a recipe for disaster worse than where we currently are. And how can people be so confident to allow anybody to use a drug that barely has any research done on it? My God. My brain hurts from this I'm sorry.

  48. As a sufferer of Depression, Generalized Anxiety, and PTSD, mushrooms were the ONLY thing to get rid of all of my symptoms for a few days. It was like they shoved all of my mental illnesses into a locked box at the back of my brain and it was glorious. I sobbed from how happy and beautiful I felt for the first time in my life. So I am all about decriminalization because PTSD especially is hell to deal with and anything to relieve those symptoms is a miracle.

  49. Magic Mushrooms DEFINITELY helps some people with mental health issues without any of the side effects that can come with some other medications. Psilocybin combined with therapy is a WONDERFUL idea. When you have depression that is resistant to treatment and suddenly, for the first time before recent memory, you are HAPPY and laughing and talking, it is such a blessing that I can't even really begin to put into words. WHY do you want to keep that from people??
    OH and an added side effect. When these things keep you up all the time and you get little to no sleep to the point you start feeling like you are going crazy and then … YOU GET TO FALL ASLEEP?!?! If you haven't been there, you don't know. Getting sleep when you haven't had one hour in days can be such a big deal you want to cry from happiness when you wake up.

  50. Governments are, unfortunately, still working off of an agenda that is so outdated it's almost laughable. Despite the masses of scientific data available stating otherwise, their view is all drugs are bad, end of discussion. The police, in my country at least, have stated views that run counter to government policy regarding the punishment of drug users. It's a genuine shame that the discussion is dictated by what politicians think 'the people' want to hear, rather than a sensible drug policy.

  51. I think schedule 1 labeling doesn’t work it limits our research. Why wouldn’t we want to study everything and see its effects and benefits and/or harm. Knowledge is power.

  52. Great vid! I know it is unlikely that you'll see this but I do have a suggestion for the channel. I think that your other hosts should get a little face time towards the end of the video. As they do more stories, I think it would be nice to have a face to the voice and build a larger fan base for the individual hosts. Kinda like Vox does at the end of their vids with the journalist asking for thoughts from the audience/closing out the story. I mean, PDF should still do the intros as the channel is growing, but I personally think it will help the journalists' future career, attract more talent for RR, and help make PDF less of the whole face of RR. Just an idea.

  53. Having shrooms would be good. Not only because of my and my family’s anxiety issues, but because I enjoy occasional use. But to by honest, I prefer LSD. A longer, less intense trip, that does more good to me mentally (provided you are in the right mindset, the right environment, and the right company.)

  54. My old boss suffers from PTSD. I suffer from depression. Both of us could benefit from the legalization of a myriad of drugs chemicals and concoctions that are only banned out of paranoia or complacency. Legalizing and medicating this n more could flat out save lives. I do hope it doesnt become monopolized though.

  55. If it's for mental health such as the video stated, Depression, Anxiety, and PTSD (which are all what I have), then I'm all for it! I've struggled with them for the longest time and while some meds work as long as I take only them (which i'm not at the moment), I really want to see what taking magic mushrooms is like for medical use because I want to know if taking it once would help me a whole ton in the long run.

    I remember having a conversation with an ex co worker about a specific drug to use with the medical/therapeutic study research specifically to those that struggle with PTSD, very similar to what was talked about in the video. Now I wonder if the magic mushrooms were what he was saying because I couldn't remember what specific drug he and I were talking about.

  56. Great video, but PLEASE normalize the volume on these. Phil and the interview were so quiet compared to the main coverage that I had to keep adjusting my volume

  57. Non-drug user here. I'll fight to the fucking death to defend the validity of shrooms as a legitimate and effective medicinal substance. And frankly, they are nigh harmless recreationally, bar  for people with varying degrees of psychosis and whatnot. Also, what Ryan Manevar was getting at actually seems very well thought out, because the issues with full legalization are most CERTAINLY manifesting with weed already. I think his route seems the best thus far, and I actually wish it had been taken with weed.

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