Man up Princess. Yep. Deal with it. Mad as a box of frogs. I like that one though!
Flip-flop ding. Flip-flop ding?
Yeah, I’ve been called that a few times. Got an issue get a tissue.
(Laughs) Build a bridge get over it. Take anti-depressants, go and see a shrink.
Yep. Here’s 10p find somebody who cares.
There’s loads of that isn’t there? Oh there’s loads of it. (Laughs) That’s like saying right
you’ve got asthma and there’s loads of air around you should just breathe isn’t it? It’s as if there’s not even a real problem, or
that it’s completely down to the individuals. Well, do you not think I want to? I don’t get
up in the morning wanting to feel like that. I want to snap out of it,
but it’s just not that simple. I think if you could you would,
wouldn’t you that’s the point. You wouldn’t need telling would you? Maybe I’ll try it,
what do you reckon? Jason, snap out of it! Did that work?
Yes, sir. It worked, see? Don’t even need to address that do we really?
Not really, no! (Laughs) I’m sure it affects stupid people
just as much as it affects clever people. I mean it can affect anyone,
from incredibly clever people, anyone. There’s no discrimination in it. And everyone’s stress levels are different
and everyone’s environment is different. You could be stacking hay all
day, it doesn’t make you, your issues any less… Where did that come from?
Stacking hay all day?! Do you know someone with a mental health illness?
Yeah I think we all probably do. 100 percent, because we both do. It’s whether people admit to it or not isn’t it?
Because I think actually if people are honest with eachother it’d be like 100 percent. I think it’ll be a high number but there’s still people
out there who think that everyone’s alright, so I think the
number will be high but lower than you think. I’m gonna go right out there.
A hundred percent. Woah! We’re way off aren’t we?
(Laughs) Wow. They’re lying! (Laughs) If someone comes to work
and they’ve got their arm in a sling then it’s quite obvious they’ve hurt
their arm, you could probably have a comfortable conversation about that. ‘I did it playing
rugby at the weekend’ or whatever but if someone’s been off work for a period of time and
it’s known they’ve not been well from a mental health perspective it’s potentially more difficult
to say to somebody ‘how are you feeling?’ But if you think if you’d have asked that
question 10 years ago that figure would’ve been well down. When was that taken? Let me just check on something
you said there. I know you’re a hockey player, you didn’t just call playing
rugby a mental health issue did you? No, no, No, no, no, no.
Just checking! Because we get serious injuries playing
hockey not broken arms and stuff like that! (Laughs) No.
No. Actually I think
it’s a sign of strength. I think it’s the biggest step that they can make. You have
to be able to ask for help and we have to have a culture of encouraging that don’t we? Help isn’t getting sectioned is it? It’s about speaking to someone. So definitely an old-fashioned
view. A bit like the earth is flat. We know it’s not the case. Eight. Did you just nod at him then?
(Laughs) I’m trying to do the maths on that one. I’m going about 70%.
Four. The way we think! I’ve gone percentage,
out of ten, yeah? I listened to the question, you didn’t!
(Laughs) Seven? Okay, not seven. (Laughs) Nine? Eight? Seven? That’s massively high isn’t it?
It is. The things that you see and that
you have to deal with every day. It’s not normal for people is it
if you can use that word. You always get asked two questions.
You must have seen some horrible things and do you know my uncle Albert who served in
Scunthorpe in 1974. He was a firefighter. The first port of call usually when we get
back to station is to have as dark as it may seem a laugh and a joke about ‘you forgot
to start the tool up what you playing at’ ‘you had your leggings on back to front’,
something like that. I’m quite proud that as emergency services
it’s quite a high number. Because also, that means they’re coming forward and acknowledging that there’s a problem. The fact that people can report it and we are aware of a higher figure than others does
that mean we’re doing something about it, actually that could be a positive that we
know far more so it’s not positive that people are ill, of course it’s not, but actually
if we are much more aware of it in the emergency services than in other occupations because
we see it as a priority then that’s a good thing. And we can do something about it as
well, can’t we. As a firefighter we want to help people, but we need to be helped as well.
And we are aren’t we? Yes. Superman had his weaknesses didn’t he? Well, one weakness.
Only one. Two. Kryptonite and Lois Lane.
Magic. He’s scared of Paul Daniels!